JUN
03
Disposing of Human Waste in the Suburbs During a SHTF
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It’s sum­mer here in the North­east, and it is get­ting hot quick­ly.  Hon­est­ly, I love it.   It’s June, and in the mid 80’s and as I was watch­ing a movie this evening on TV, it hit me.  What hap­pens if the pow­er goes out.  And, what if it stays off for a day or two and I do not Bug Out .  Hmmm… My water stops mov­ing.  That means, I am com­plete­ly depen­dent on my 35 gal­lons of stored water.  Let’s say, bug­ging out is not an option, hypo­thet­i­cal­ly.  Maybe it is win­ter and there is a hel­lu­va snow storm that has brought down pow­er for a few days or more.  A storm, etc… I think you get my drift.

Let’s say the pow­er is off, and, well, there is only about two flush­es in your toi­let.  What do you do.  Well, you could fill your tank up with water and have anoth­er flush or two, wast­ing a LOT of water, or you can come up with a dif­fer­ent solu­tion.  Chances are if you live in the sub­urbs, there are strict reg­u­la­tions and maybe even laws about the dis­pos­al of poten­tial­ly harm­ful waste byprod­uct (how is that for polit­i­cal­ly cor­rect).  So I want to exam­ine a few ways that might make a dif­fer­ence in some short term options to help you mud­dle through a short term SHTF.  Unfor­tu­nate­ly, if we are look­ing at a long term SHTF, I’m out of Dodge, so those of you hang­ing about can deal with this issue…

First, let’s try to under­stand that dur­ing a SHTF of any kind there is stress on every­one in your group, your­self, and every­one around you.  This may come in the form of lack of med­ical care, poor san­i­ta­tion, poor nutri­tion, phys­i­cal stress, lack of sleep, emo­tion­al stress, etc.  I think you get my drift.  Oth­er stress can come from ill­ness or injuries.  Prop­er han­dling of human waste or byprod­uct can be crit­i­cal.  Have you ever thought about this?

If encoun­ter­ing a short term or long term dis­as­ter in a city and in sub­ur­bia, no doubt water lines will be / can be down, sew­er and elec­tri­cal sys­tems will be affect­ed.  What does this mean?  Tech­ni­cal­ly this means water is not flow­ing.  Which means, flush­ing and using the sink is out… This is not a good sit­u­a­tion in the sub­urbs or in the city.  Peri­od.  Human fecal mat­ter is with­out a doubt one of the dead­liest sub­stances on the plan­et.  It does­n’t mat­ter how healthy you are, human fecal mat­ter car­ries dis­ease.  And should the sew­ers not work or start back­ing up in to apart­ment build­ings and homes, there could be dis­as­trous reper­cus­sions.

So, how do you han­dle human waste?  There are a cou­ple of ways, and here are the sug­gest­ed meth­ods:

  • Human fecal mat­ter:
    • Get your­self a spare 5 gal­lon buck­et, and keep it sealed.  Add a 1 to 10 bleach to water ratio (one part bleach to 10 parts water) to san­i­tize the buck­et.  Keep it tight­ly sealed so that insects and rodents can­not get into it, and crawl out and poten­tial­ly spread dis­ease.
  • Urine:
    • Keep it sep­a­rate from the fecal mat­ter.  The rea­son is that if the urine and fecal mat­ter mix there is much more con­t­a­m­i­nat­ed mate­r­i­al that must be dis­posed of.  If you are in an apart­ment with a ter­race, keep it out­side your apart­ment.

So, what hap­pens if the sew­er ser­vice in your area is not restored in a time­ly man­ner?  Aside from your 5 gal­lon buck­et fill­ing up, you’re going to need to bury the fecal mat­ter.  You’re going to have to go out, dig a hole in your back yard, if you have one, and bury it.  The point of bury­ing the fecal mat­ter is so that rodents and insects do not get to it and spread dis­ease.  The bonus is that it won’t smell either.  Now for the hard part.  You will need to dig a hole at least a foot deep.  I sug­gest at least 18 inch­es if you can get away with it.  You should also cov­er it with ash or lime, and then cov­er it back up with dirt.  After refill­ing your hole, you should cov­er it with some­thing so that if it rains, the fecal mat­ter does not imme­di­ate­ly mix with the rain water and leak to the sur­face.  This is a real threat.  You don’t want your kids play­ing in a pud­dle of poop and mud.

As an option, a  com­post­ing toi­let in your home or apart­ment might be an option for you.  These toi­lets run about $1,500 dol­lars.  There are sev­er­al dif­fer­ent man­u­fac­tur­ers, and they claim the com­post is a dry, safe com­post.  I am not sure how true this is, as many peo­ple cau­tion against com­post­ing human fecal mat­ter or any fecal mat­ter of a car­ni­vore.  How­ev­er, the toi­lets work by ven­ti­lat­ing the waste and keep­ing it at a tem­per­a­ture that kills the bac­te­ria and pathogens, and decom­pos­es the fecal mat­ter to com­post.  Gen­er­al­ly, a com­post­ing toi­let is an indoor device and can be installed in your home.  They vent to the out­side of your house and there are dif­fer­ent mod­els, some of which are elec­tric.  Again, I do not know much about them, and may look into them just for the edu­ca­tion fac­tor.

I also came across this arti­cle, and thought I would share:   http://www.i4at.org/lib2/hmnwaste.htm

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COMMENTS
By: yardbird
jun
22

I understand what you are saying. I lived through Hurricane Andrew (Miami, Aug.’92), and had that experience in mind. I remember we had to make a temporary, makeshift outhouse in the backyard. We never considered leaving, as looters would have picked the remains of the house clean. I think going through that in an apartment would have been very different.

By: suburban
jun
21

In reply to yardbird .

Yarbird, in the suburbs outside NYC or any other city, or in the city, an outhouse may not be viable depending on where you live, like myself. While I live in a house, it is an apartment in a house on the second floor. No outhouse for me.

By: yardbird
jun
21

If things go south, leaving might not be a viable option for many. Maybe build an outhouse? If it came to that, I see no reason why not. The 5 gallon bucket thing you talked sounded a bit labor intensive. Made me wonder if human waste from a vegan might be used as compost (LOL- just kidding!)

By: Apartment Prepper

It would be rough trying to get rid of waste while in crowded cities-imagine all these other people who won’t know what to do, or even the others who do, trying to find a spot to bury the waste would be a challenge too. Good article; definitely something to include in any disaster plan. Let’s hope it doesn’t get that bad…

By: suburban
jun
5

In reply to Arsenius the Hermit .

Sorry to worry you with the concern, but I try to think of these things… I’m not sure i will be here if the SHTF, as I will probably Bug Out, but for those that plan on sheltering in, I try to think of what I can that might help someone else…

By: Arsenius the Hermit

I’ll tell you, living in surburbia is going to be tough if things go bad. You’re absolutely right to be looking over things like waste disposal in that environment. I don’t know if you ever saw the History Channels “After Apocalypse” but it dealt with the scenario of suburban people living in L.A. after a complete societal collapse. They buried the waste in the backyard, for lack of anything else. I have kids living in cities and it worries me to death, because while here we are completely self contained, there they are dependent on city water, city sewer, city power, and on and on. It’s a frightening thought. I hope they can make it back here if need be. We’ve planned out a route on back roads and they have enough gas in their Jeep Commander to make it with a couple of Jerry cans in the back. Reading your post made me think of all those concerns again!

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